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Old Mar 11, 2008, 08:59 PM // 20:59   #21
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Ha, that would be amazing. Lol, mechanical mounts ftw.

Yeah but seriously, it's an elite area. It's SUPPOSED to be HARD. Why make it easier/quicker?

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wait fow is supposed to be hard?
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #22
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Why yes it is! You must have only joined after Ursan came out...
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Old Mar 11, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #23
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It do not need as much teleporters as UW has, but it could a couple of them, from already existing NPCs being far away enough.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #24
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Why yes it is! You must have only joined after Ursan came out...
No, FoW has always been easy... people have always been meh...

I would seriously suggest that people start unlocking skills for their heroes... it sounds to me like the majority of people I encounter just don't have a variety of builds for their heroes. Right now, I wonder how many people are running their characters and heroes with atrocious builds, complaining that the game is too hard. That hasn't been my experience. I can hh anything ig. Rune your heroes... give them a variety of skills, and watch how it magically works... lol
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #25
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bah i hate teleporters

this will get abused and weird in UW an avatar of grenth can teleport you but in fow a normal npc i don't know...

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Old Mar 12, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17   #26
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Teleportation is definitely required due to the Unwanted Guests mission. If you were not to teleport, the Vengeful Aataxe would not die. They would remain on you until you were dead and there were no other party members in their vicinity.
That option = not required. Most people do that quest last anyway, so what's DP?

OT: No need... the openness and layout of FoW makes it simple to cruise around and clear without ever really going over what you've already done.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #27
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wait fow is supposed to be hard?
Heh, I know someone would love that I said that.

Harder in the sense that it's a little more difficult then the rest of PvE.

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What he said.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06   #28
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/not signed - as mentioned, FoW is rather small and can easily be cleared completely in a matter of a few hours or less.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20   #29
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They aren't necessary; FoW is a relatively small area.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 08:34 PM // 20:34   #30
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That option = not required. Most people do that quest last anyway, so what's DP?

OT: No need... the openness and layout of FoW makes it simple to cruise around and clear without ever really going over what you've already done.
hmmm.... I wonder what would happen if the aataxe blocked your escape when you aggroed them...

you could kill the reaper, however, as long as you are holding their aggro they don't die...

You don't need to teleport, right? No... it is optional

/sarcasm *inserted throughout reply*

Teleporting is part of the Underworld and should be used. Even with the best group possible and splitting the missions, the fastest I have cleared UW is a little over fifty minutes.

The fasterest I have cleared FoW is the same without. FoW is small and can be cleared in a set pattern... where UW cannot. The central reaper has three quests that are in the hub of UW, pointing all over the place.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 08:39 PM // 20:39   #31
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You guys are a bunch of jackasses. Close this RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing thread.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02   #32
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hmmm.... I wonder what would happen if the aataxe blocked your escape when you aggroed them...

you could kill the reaper, however, as long as you are holding their aggro they don't die...

You don't need to teleport, right? No... it is optional

/sarcasm *inserted throughout reply*.
Lolwut? I'm poking fun, but at least make some sense please. The Keeper* (not reaper) is squishy, it doesn't take much to kill. Not much meaning not your whole party. As in not everyone aggros. It dies, let the people who went in die, aatxes die. So.... wut? Try to be less of an ass just for the sake of being an ass, you look a whole lot less silly.
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #33
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I'd be behind a one-way teleporter after you cleared the Forge. So you could teleport to whereever you need but would have to fight your way back(why the heck not?). In most cases FoW teams aren't coordinated enough to split up and do more than one quest at the same time. All us casters start feeling squishy w/o bonds and heals(though Rt's do quite well w/o monks).

/not signed unless FoW gets bigger...which would be awesome.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05   #34
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FoW doesnt need teleporters. Its not that big of an area to begin with, and if you do the forgemaster quests right off, you have a shortcut between the differant areas. As for being able to sell in the area, the forgemaster will buy from you after you have completed his quests. I ALWAYS do the forgemaster quests first off for the convenience of having a "merchant" while in there.
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Old Mar 13, 2008, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #35
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No, FoW has always been easy... people have always been meh...

I would seriously suggest that people start unlocking skills for their heroes... it sounds to me like the majority of people I encounter just don't have a variety of builds for their heroes. Right now, I wonder how many people are running their characters and heroes with atrocious builds, complaining that the game is too hard. That hasn't been my experience. I can hh anything ig. Rune your heroes... give them a variety of skills, and watch how it magically works... lol
It was harder prior to the power creep of Factions/NF.
Keep in mind, FoW and UW were the hardest areas of the game for a good 10 months before SF/Tombs were introduced (Tombs in particular of course stopped being hard once people B/P farmed it). Basically it was the only endgame PvE thing to do. A lot of people have certain nostalgia feelings for the place.
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